The Short Answer: An exchange
with Ken Burns
Ken Burns' many documentary films
include The Civil War and Baseball.
How well is the country holding
on to its historic treasures?
It's a mixed bag. We've recognized
the value to our economic and spiritual lives in preserving
places with historical significance, but there are
always forces that seem arrayed against that impulse,
and quite often in the midst of difficult times, preservation
concerns are set aside. If we have understood anything
from our history, it is that we become richer in every
sense of the word by preserving historic and natural
landscapes.
Can people make better use of history
in preserving such places?
Yes. Harry Truman said, "The only
thing that's new in the world is the history
you don't know." When we're armed with
a historical awareness, we are enriched in every dimension.
We can solve complex political questions in the present,
ensure ourselves a future, and come to value the importance
of place.
How important is regionalism in
shaping one's outlook on history?
Our identities are shaped in many ways. We have a
worldview, a national identity, and a sense of clan,
family, and self. But today we don't notice as
much the areas from which we sprang, places that have
made us who we are today.
Is distinct regionalism, then,
in decline in America?
Absolutely. Chain stores are often like algae in a
pond, choking out local expression and local possibility.
And that's an incredibly dangerous thing. As
a consequence, we all have a homogeneous set of experiences
that, paradoxically, drive us further apart. One would
think that regional differences would do that, but
those differences actually remind us of the ideas
that we have in common. Right now we have a kind of
psychological and cultural civil war going on that
is quite different from the original Civil War.
Who are the combatants?
Those whose political and economic agendas thrive
on disunion. The great strength of our country is
the idea that out of many comes one. I've tried
to be in the business of unum. What we all share is
much more substantial, significant, and durable than
what we don't share. I would rather focus on
the commonality than on the distinctions that provide
momentary advantage for this group or that. Preserving
this commonality is part of what Lincoln called heeding
"the better angels of our nature."
These forces of disunion ebb and flow. Sometimes
we're susceptible, and we yield. At other times
we're outraged, and we rise up to stop another
shopping center on a battlefield or, in a larger sense,
stop those who try to make distinctions between people
based upon political or religious circumstances.
How important is preservation of
place in the recalling of history?
It's critical. We strain to listen to the ghosts
and echoes of our inexpressibly wise past, and we
have an obligation to maintain these places, to provide
these sanctuaries, so that people may be in the presence
of forces larger than those of the moment.
What are you working on now?
A documentary about our national parks. That has provided
the opportunity to stand in front of what has been
called America's best idea, the notion that land
can be set aside not for noblemen or kings but for
everyone, for all time, unimpaired, and that we can
revel in the great beauty, as well as the fragility,
of the natural world.
Do you see the national parks as
cultural or natural assets?
Both. They're a kind of living organism that
has gone through its own fascinating evolution. In
the beginning we set aside land because of its scenic
beauty. Later, there seemed to be some value to antiquities,
so the Grand Canyon was set aside because there was
archaeological evidence of native cultures. Later,
noblesse oblige took over, and the Rockefellers, for
example, helped establish Acadia and the Grand Tetons
and the Smokies. More recently we've been interested
in both the ecological areas and those with historical
significance. We're beginning to have a marvelous
conversation between our present and our past, between
the man-made and the natural.
Can history be revealed through
buildings and landscapes?
I rely heavily on voices to help bring a story alive,
but it's not the only way. In films on the Brooklyn
Bridge, the Statue of Liberty, the Shakers, Frank Lloyd Wright, and Thomas
Jefferson, we focused on what buildings and landscape
have to say to us. And then in the series on the Civil
War and the West, we used landscape to evoke the presence
of these ghosts.
What can the federal government
do to preserve historic places?
We want an energetic, intellectually curious federal
system, one that will repair what has decayed in recent
years but one that is also mindful of the fact that
we are constantly creating history and need to be
discriminating in the way we select and preserve.
That comes from an active interest on the part of
citizens, and the government.
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